J.J.’s DN-HC4500 + Traktor Pro TSI MIDI Mapper
I’m working on 2 Custom MIDI Mapper for the DN-HC4500 and Traktor Pro. When I’m finished, I will update the PDF and create a video.
• Display Support
—–May cause USB traffic jam
—–Use only if you own a MAC or Audio 8
—–Use only if you love to see the Track’s Title nonstop scrolling
• No Display Support
—–Low Latency (Better Performance)
—–Cue LED stays on when Cued. Play LED flashes while Paused. Jog Wheel & Parameter Blue LED is always ON.
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Use the latest HC4500 Software update and the latest ASIO. If you have Windows 7 64-bit, use Denon DJ ASIO 2.1. Otherwise, use ASIO 1.01.
Firmware SYS 1006 (August 2009)
http://www.denondj.com/firmware.aspx?ProductId=81
ASIO 2.10 For Windows 7 64-bit only:
http://www.denondj.com/assets/misc/DDJAsioDrv210.zip
• 2.1 is optimized for 8in/8out
• You need it in order to run 64-bit
• You need this version if you have a DN-X1600 or DN-X1700 mixer
ASIO 1.01 For Windows 7 32-bit (XP, Vista):
http://www.denondj.com/assets/misc/DDJAsioDrv101.zip
• 1.01 is optimized for 4in/4out
• Utilizes less audio channels = smaller buffer size setting is possible
Ok so here it is. I DJ’d all night, appro* 4 hours. Only real hiccup I seen was when selecting a track from a playlist with the parameter knob and selecting it (pushing down), it goes back to the first track in the playlist when i go to load another track into the next deck with the parameter knob (pushing down). Other than that, it works perfectly. I used the tsi file HC4500 4 Decks no display 20100428. Works perfect other than that glitch.
Thanks again J.J.
Apr 30th 2010, at 7:16 pm
Hey JJ,
SO looking forward to using this hc4500 mapping. However, I can’t seem to register for your site in order to download. Am I missing something? It keeps saying my email address is incorrect.
May 1st 2010, at 6:28 am
I don’t know why it it wouldn’t let you register and it sent this post to SPAM.
Were you finally able to download it Evan?
May 16th 2010, at 9:45 pm
Thanks for the update OneCrazyDJ. I will look into that.
Pushing down the PM Knob (like Flip, Pitch/Key) is actually a modifier. When you push down and turn, it should skip around 10 tracks.
Does this happen every time, or do you think you pushed the PM Knob down and turned counter clockwise at the same time?
May 1st 2010, at 11:14 am
Hey JJ
Is it possible to see your mapping in a file?
I would like to see how you program your stuff. At the moment, I have a old .tsi (your 4 decks) that I modified. The scrolling is bad on this one (skips 3th or 4th track) but is very good for me.
If I load your new one, I need to change it all over.
thx in advance
May 1st 2010, at 12:04 pm
Download the latest TSI and look at the mapping. Then download the PDF to see what everything does. I fixed the scrolling so it doesn’t skip every 3rd track. The newer Traktor Pro has made a lot of changes to MIDI since I did that very old TSI. Please upgrade!
Modifier 1 = Tree/Playlist (Mod 0). Tracks List (Mod 1)
Modifier 2 = Left A Deck 1st layer (Mod 0). Left C Deck 2nd Layer (Mod 1)
Modifier 3 = Left Decks. Range (Mod 1), PM Knob Press (Mod 2), Flip (Mod 3), Effect 1 (Mod 4) Effect 2 (Mod 5), Effect 3 (Mod 6)
Modifier 4 = Jog Wheel: Deck A: Scratch (Mod 0), Jog Bend (Mod 1), Deck C: Scratch (Mod 2), Jog Bend (Mod 3). Playlist button changes
Modifier 5 = Duplicates Modifier 3 and Modifier 7. For example, you can hold down Flip and hit Effect 1, then Effect 2 while holding down Flip
Modifier 6 = Right B Deck 1st layer (Mod 0). Right D Deck 2nd Layer (Mod 1)
Modifier 7 = Right Decks. Range (Mod 1), PM Knob Press (Mod 2), Flip (Mod 3), Effect 1 (Mod 4) Effect 2 (Mod 5), Effect 3 (Mod 6)
Modifier 8 = Jog Wheel: Deck B: Scratch (Mod 0), Jog Bend (Mod 1), Deck D: Scratch (Mod 2), Jog Bend (Mod 3). Playlist button changes
It can get very complicated. What were you trying to add to the mapper?
May 17th 2010, at 9:37 am
Actually I didn’t get that playlist glitch tonight. Don’t know what it was on Thursday night but tonight I dj’d the whole night and it went smooth as butter. Had my wifi on, Bluetooth on, browsing web pages, chatting on iChat. I used the tsi without display. Worked like a charm. Thanks again
May 1st 2010, at 10:41 pm
I played yesterday a n evening with 4 decks with display, with no problems. I used a soundcard from Maya EX7, but had latency problems. gad to set de driver on slow. I’ve tried to play with the tsi file with no display, but with this tsi file I can not load a song with the PM button. When i push nothing is happening. Do someone have this problem as well. I play with Windows XP.
May 2nd 2010, at 12:48 am
I’m using a macbook pro, and traktor 1.2.4. With the no display TSI, both decks read “Audio Through” and I can’t load any tracks. Any ideas?
The other TSI works fine… Thanks…
May 10th 2010, at 8:05 pm
@musicbym: why no upgrade to traktor 1.2.6 with the lastest display TSI from J.J? I’ve used it last saturday whole night for the first time and it worked perfectly with my macbook pro unibody 15 inch / OSX 10.6.3!!!
Thanks to J.J.’s .TSI work i’ve switched to traktor for sure now.
thanks J.J!
a donation will follow.
‘im missing one little item. Not that important, but having the ‘brake’ button effect working again like it used to be with VDJ that i’ve been using the last years, would be great.
May 11th 2010, at 1:50 am
@musicbym, i have the same problem using Windows XP, everything is working, lights, scrolling the playlist, ….. but i can’t load a track, i’ve got the latset update from Traktor.
May 11th 2010, at 4:12 am
My beautiful daughter Jade was born May 3rd 8lb 1oz. She has kept my wife and I pretty busy. Thanks for all the good wishes for my family.
I got a Rane 68 mixer. It doesn’t currently have any ASIO drivers for Ableton Live or NI Traktor Pro. I started testing the no display TSI. Here is what I fixed.
• FX Unit 2 Effect 1. Fixed button >> to Increase FX select (It was set to Decrease)
• FX Unit 4 Effect 3. Fixed button >> to Increase FX select (It was set to Decrease)
Here are some of the things I will be adding.
• Range + Function Key = Hot Start Cue on hold only
• PM Knob Press Hold + Function Key 1 = No Effects for all
• PM Knob Press Hold + Function Key 2 = Loads 3 default effects and amounts
—–Effect 1 = Turntable FX (Brake Mode)
—–Effect 2 = Reverse Gain (Censor, Temp Reverse)
—–Effect 3 = BeatSlicer
• PM Knob Press Hold + Function Key 3 = Loads 3 default effects and amounts
—–Effect 1 = Gater (Audio In and Out)
—–Effect 2 = Filter??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du9UAARJe8I&feature=channel
Any other great FX combination you guys would like to have at default????? What FX’s do you use the most?
It loads tracks when you hit the PM knob select. Are you guys talking about the Display Support TSI?
May 11th 2010, at 11:08 pm
Congrattulations dad, i’ve got a son of 8 years old. Best wisches for you and your wife. No i’m talking about the TSI without display support. Tommorow, i’ll try again.
May 12th 2010, at 12:13 am
Congratulations JJ, so glad you’re all fine
I’ve been using the NO DISPLAY tsi and it works just fine, just a few things for debugging if you felt like:
- You start with the cursor in Track Collection / Playlists / etc (the first level). Theoreticaly, when you press the parameter knob you should get into playlists and then navigate within them, but i does nothing, it stays there.
- When doing stutter with cue, and you realise you did want to play the song you can press play before you release cue button, and it keeps playing (the way it’s supposed to), but in this mode, the green led in PLAY won’t light up; it’s a stupid detail, just wanted you to know, i can live with that lol
May 12th 2010, at 2:57 am
@COREMANS. Thank you. Please let me know how the testing goes.
@damon_bcn. Thank you.
- I started in Track Collection because I used to use the PM Knob press for more functions. I’m always having to hit the Back button as soon as Traktor Pro starts. Great suggestion. I will change it so it defaults to the Playlists.
- Are you talking about the PLAY button not lighting at all after you released the Cue Button? This is how it should work: When holding down the Cue, the Cue led will be red. When you hit Play, the Play led should be green. I will look into this.
May 12th 2010, at 1:07 pm
I loaded the tsi with the import finction of Traktor en it did not work, all the buttons are working, lights, effects, but you can not get a song in one of the players. In both players there is a text “audio trough”. I’ve put my X1 controller on ik with the HC4500 and your tsi file and if i hit the cue button, it also lights up on the X1 controller, but i can not load a track with the X1 as well. So i’ve tried something else, i run the program, first install the file for the X1 and i got no message anymore in the players “audio trough”, i can do anything with the X1, now i loaded the tsi file for the Denon ……… and everything is working, even with the Denon and your tsi. Don’t ask my how, i think the problem is “audio trough”, if you get this on your screen of your players on the laptop, you can’t load a song, not with the HC4500 en not with the X1. But if i import your file first, i always get “audio trough”. I don’t now why.
Musicbym, i hope you understand my poor explanation, but give it a try.
CC, i hope maybe now you know what we are doing wrong.
May 12th 2010, at 2:00 pm
I’ll tell you one thing, this is the most stable release yet by far (HC4500 4 Decks no display 20100428). Not one hiccup. I mean i’m not using the effects per say (maybe a delay once in a while to change from a fast track to a slower track and visa versa). But really, J.J. nailed it. 3 full 5 hour gigs and it’s be outstanding. I have another 3 parties coming up and I know I rely on J.J.’s tsi file to do the job.
It’s a mystery how you guys are having all these problems. For one, most of the issues you guys are having can be answered on the http://www.native-instruments.com forum. Because the audio-through setting can be changed very easily. SEE THE ARROW UNDERNEATH THE LETTER A OR LETTER B ON THE DECK? PRESS THAT BUTTON (THE DOWN ARROW) AND GET IF OFF INTERNAL PLAYBACK. CMON NOW. Read the forums. This forum is about the tsi file. It’s not about troubleshooting your Traktor. That’s what the native instruments forums are for.
Thanks again J.J. Gonna send you some dough now. Congratulations on your new healthy child.
May 12th 2010, at 2:52 pm
Thanks for the infor OneCrazyDJ… sorry that I am not as astute as you are but I appreciate the response nonetheless
May 12th 2010, at 2:58 pm
Brake, flanger en beatgrid effects related to the three effect buttons on my denon HC-4500 would be great!
@musicbym, how is your macbook pro with traktor working now?
I assumed you work with the same denon like i do. Is that correct?
May 12th 2010, at 5:18 pm
???? To all the guys using Traktor denon hc4500 and mac, do u guys have an audio 8 or 4 sound card or use the hc4500 sound card???? My hc4500 freezes all my updates are uptodate
May 12th 2010, at 5:36 pm
the HC4500 has a build in sound card. No need for a audio 8 or 4 soundcard.
Nothing more to do then connecting your denon HC4500 with your mac by usb cable.
Your denon is freezing???
May 12th 2010, at 5:46 pm
Macbok Pro 2.4ghz (non-Unibody), 4gb ram, 1tb internal stripe raided 2x500gb drives, 10.6.3 snow leopard, traktor scratch pro 1.2.6, audio 8 sound card with 1ms latency using the DN-D4500 and the HC4500 4 Decks no display 20100428. I make a ton of money djing, not going to settle for anything less.
May 12th 2010, at 5:53 pm
I know that’s what I’m doing not using audio 8 but my hc4500 freezes it still let’s me work with the keyboared and mouse but the hc45500 freezes the play avd cue still light on when I use the keyboared but no buttons work on it
May 12th 2010, at 5:55 pm
@djyan,
i’ve just checked the traktor settings.
these one just work:
audio setup > audio device > Denon 4500
output routing > external > output channel A & B/ L+R > 1,2,3,4.
This works like a charm with the imported .tsi fie from J.J.
I guess there is something wrong with your denon if he freezes…
May 12th 2010, at 5:55 pm
All working well on my mac now. Just a question, with no display TSI my function key buttons do not display my hotcues. Is this normal?
May 12th 2010, at 6:02 pm
Which tsi should I use, does the no display work better????
May 12th 2010, at 6:05 pm
Correction, only the load cues do not light up but I thought they did in the past…
May 12th 2010, at 6:09 pm
@OneCrazyDJ, i’m curious how to work with four decks in traktor with my denon.
is that possible?
I just had my first weekend using traktor, JJ’s latest display.tsi file, and my denon HC4500.
Do i have to buy the audio 8 sound card in addition to my denon?
and then use the HC4500 4 Decks no display 20100428 .tsi file from JJ?
May 12th 2010, at 6:13 pm
@djyan, you have to figure out if your denon is working correctly itself. JJ’s display .tsi file is definitely not the problem.
Dowload the free Virtual ( DJ http://www.virtualdj.com/download/trial.html ) version en make that work with you denon 4500 as a double check.
‘ive been using VDJ for a year with my denon HC4500. No problem at all.
I’m able to switch between VDJ, traktor and serato (i have the SL3).
My denon works with the three of them perfect, including display support.
If your denon freezes as well with VDJ you now where to look…
May 12th 2010, at 6:28 pm
JJ, about the play button led, i’ll try to explain the point:
You can use CUE as a stutter, right? When it is playing, if you realise you did want to keep the song playing, if you keep CUE pressed and without releasing it you press play, the tune will keep going when you release both buttons. This is the situation where the green play led stays off.
Hope it helps you
May 13th 2010, at 4:00 am
Updated: HC4500 4 Decks no display 20100514
FIXED
• Cue Hold + Play = Play LED green (please test it out damon, it works for me)
• FX Unit 2 Effect 1. Fixed button >> to Increase FX select (It was set to Decrease)
• FX Unit 4 Effect 3. Fixed button >> to Increase FX select (It was set to Decrease)
• Advanced FX select. Fixed buttons < < and >> on right side
ADDED
• Flip + Jog Wheel Turn = Wet/Dry for Right Decks (Left already had it)
• Flip + Back = Resets Mixer Filter & Key for Right Decks (Left already had it)
• PM Turn now defaults to Playlist Tree instead of Track List
• PM Push + PM Turn = List Select Page Up/Down
• Range + Function Key = Hot Cue (If Track Paused, Cue Stutter)
• PM Knob Press Hold + Function Key 5 = No Effects for all. Also clears Advanced FX
• PM Knob Press Hold + Function Key 1 = Loads 3 default effects
• PM Knob Press Hold + Function Key 1 again = Loads Effect 1 & 3 Amounts
—–Effect 1 = Turntable FX (Brake Mode)
—–Effect 2 = Reverse Gain (Censor, Temp Reverse)
—–Effect 3 = Gater
bonifacedj, I will get flanger and beatgrid effects added later. You guys, what are some other great effect combination’s???
OneCrazyDJ. THANK YOU FOR THE DONATION.
May 14th 2010, at 12:19 am
May 12, 2010 OneCrazyDJ. THANK YOU FOR THE DONATION.
Jan 9, 2010 adsounds. THANK YOU FOR THE DONATION.
Dec 30, 2009 musicbym. THANK YOU FOR THE DONATION.
May 14th 2010, at 1:57 am
reading this reminded me that what i’ve said earlier. I i made my donation an minute ago
May 14th 2010, at 8:03 am
May 14, 2010 bonifacedj. THANK YOU FOR THE DONATION.
May 17th 2010, at 1:12 am
JJ – Your fabulous work with the tsi has made Traktor usable with my Denon HC-4500. I can’t thank you enough! NI should put you on the payroll as their support for this popular controller is terrible!
May 14th 2010, at 8:37 am
i can’t agree more with @musicbyman.
May 14th 2010, at 9:47 am
Only reason why I use an Audio 8 Native Instruments sound card is because I want to use 4 channels in Traktor Scratch Pro. I have Technics 1200 Turntables and also I have the Denon HC4500. Mobile gigs I use the 4500 only because I’m not lugging my turntables around with me. The Audio 8 has 1ms latency without any issues.
I was using the Denon 4500 when I first got Traktor Pro. I wanted to expand my decks by having 4 decks and plus I wanted to use my turntables at home because i’m old school. Don’t get me wrong, the sound card in the 4500 is pretty damn good, I was using it for months before I upgraded.
May 17th 2010, at 12:12 am
thx for the info. For a moment i thougt controlling 4 traktor decks with one HD4500 and JJ’s ’4 Decks no display 20100514 .tsi’ file was possible in one way or another.
May 17th 2010, at 3:52 pm
You could run all 4 decks in MONO on the HC4500. I personally hate MONO though. I also have 2 DN-S3700 that I’m able to use as sound cards. The latency is crap and the drivers are awful. If you have the money, invest into the Audio 8.
If you have another sound card, you could use ASIO4ALL and see if Traktor will recognize more than 1 sound card.
http://www.poweronplay.com/asio4all-use-your-internal-sound-card/
May 17th 2010, at 4:41 pm
thx for replying. I hate MONO as well. I have a usb gigaport AG soundcard too. but ASIO4ALL is only for windows, i’m a Mac user.
Well, i forget using 4 decks with my HC4500. I have a Mac mini conected with the gigaport AG to my mixer in case of emergency. In that way i have a 3th & 4th deck.
Keep on the good work JJ!
May 17th 2010, at 6:02 pm
Hey guys ive been complaining that my hc4500 is freezing for 2 months and its getting worse, today i download Virtual dj demo btw its noting compared to traktor i cant believe i was using that for 1 year, It still freezes on Virtual dj, I Just purchased a Referb Mac from Macs web site 2 months ago, and the hc4500 bought from a friend, i cant test it on another computer because i dropped my wifes laptop and my desktops mother bored fried so im stuck with the mac and im losttt. Is there any way i can check my mac if its having problems with the usb log having crashing problems
May 17th 2010, at 3:19 pm
@djyan: run the apple hardware test: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1509
May 17th 2010, at 3:29 pm
Hello JJ
I want to mod your .tsi: only deck a & b used. No effects. The hc4500 should help me spin timecode vinyl.
I want the eject knobs to calibrate my timecode vinyl (a = left, b = right)
memo= set + store cue, range= type of que point (grid, cue, intro…)
effect1 = play internal — I want to see play, cue cup button effect 2 = relative mode effect 3 = absolute.
And is there a cure for this: I play timecode vinyl, touch the jog dial and the sound messes up. I would likethe jog to be off while I’m not internal mode. I will donate MORE then I just did.
effect
May 18th 2010, at 1:53 am
O, and no display
I also want my faderfox dx2 to control the effects. If you could tell me how I can combine your (modded) .tsi with my own .tsi for the dx2 effects, I would finally be where I want to be.
I would also love to get the cursor into the ‘search’ window without touching the mouse, and deleting what is in the search field, with one button click. Is that possible to map?
May 18th 2010, at 2:10 am
Thanks to all the Djs for the help….. (Bonifacedj & JJ thanks .) Good to know theres a dj family on this website thanks to JJ, The Display support doesnt have any effects right? i cant seem to get the effects going on the hc4500, and the non display is great but my loop in wont light up only my fade in and fade out any luck guys??????????????
May 18th 2010, at 5:19 am
Correct djyan. Only Hot Cues light up. NI would have to add Loops, Grid and Fade Cues to the output. No effects yet for the display support.
Did you figure out the problem with your mac or 4500?
May 18th 2010, at 8:50 pm
Thanks JJ, well i changed my usb and took out my fader cables and Ive been on it 10 min noting yet its all good loooollll i hope that was the problem…..With unemployment benefits gone i need to have a stable midi and i hope this is it, I just cant wait till we have the tsi with display and effects, on the display support all the cue lights light up and its greattt besides the effects. JJ is there a brake on traktor im new to Traktor and i cant seem to find it in effects??????
May 18th 2010, at 10:20 pm
Sounds good djyan. I’ve had many problems with USB cables. That’s why I strongly recommend the USB Cables from djtechtools.com
http://techtools.myshopify.com/products/hi-quality-usb-cables
The effect is Called Turntable FX.
• PM Knob Press Hold + Function Key 1 = Loads 3 default effects
• PM Knob Press Hold + Function Key 1 again = Loads Effect 1 & 3 Amounts
—–Effect 1 = Turntable FX (Brake Mode)
May 19th 2010, at 10:03 am
Notes to get the platter going on the DN-S3700…
cc 102 only starts & stops the platter (127=on; 0=off)
cc103 = platter fwd & rev (127=rev; 0=fwd)
cc104 = platter speed up (0 – 100 %) cc105 = platter speed down (0 – 70%)
pitch slider range (in traktor) = -16.0000 to 16.0000
Basically negative will be -16.0000 to -0.000001 Positive = 0.00000 to 16.00000
Assign 2 outputs for your pitch slide (tempo) 1 to cc105 for pitch up & another 1 to cc104 for pitch down.
U MUST use “blend” for it to work.
Oops – slider range is -1.0000 to 1.0000, but u get the idea.
Play button to rotate the platter
• Add In… = Play/Pause = Ch01.Note.G4, Type of Controller = Button, Interaction Mode = Toggle
• Add Out… = Ch01.CC.102, Type of Controller = LED, Interaction Mode = Output, Controller Range 0(Min), 1 (Max), Midi Range= 0 (Min), 127 (Max) No Blend
Pitch Range Fader to adjust Tempo and Platter Speed
• Add In… = Ch01.PitchBend, Type of Controller = Fader/Knob, Interaction Mode = Direct, Invert Checked
• Add Out… = Ch01.CC.104, Type of Controller = LED, Interaction Mode = Output, Controller Range 0.000001(Min), 1.000000 (Max), Midi Range= 0 (Min), 16 (Max) Blend Checked
Everything works fine from here. The Pitch Fader works great from 0% increased to around 10%. When the Pitch Slider goes beyond the middle to the negative, the pitch stays at 0%.
However, when I add the last MIDI to go from 0% to -10%, it fights each other and the audio wobbles for about 2 seconds. It happens when I decrease or increase the pitch.
• Add Out… = Ch01.CC.105, Type of Controller = LED, Interaction Mode = Output, Controller Range -1.000000(Min), -0.000001 (Max), Midi Range= 16 (Min), 0 (Max) Blend Checked
I can only get 1 of them to work at 1 time. CC.105 to decrease the platter speed or CC.104 to increase the platter speed.
Jun 16th 2010, at 10:47 pm
I’m intent to buy the DNS 3700, if you can get it working like the hc4500 does it would be great! I’m also thinking to sell my Rodec mixer en to get the DNX1600.
I’ve got at the moment no problems at all with the tsi file for the HC4500, it works great!
Jun 17th 2010, at 12:21 am
Sounds good Coremans. Hopefully, the 1600 will soon be a scratch certified mixer.
I hear NI Traktor is working on adding Native Support for the 3700. I also believe the “*** Something BIG is coming for all S3700 Owners *** ” comment is a free lite (LT) version of Traktor to all 3700 users with an option to upgrade.
I’ve been able to get it to work and the platter control is dead on. In fact, it’s to good… Let me explain. Like an analog Turntable (before digital) it responds exactly like an inconsistent Turntable would sound like. The MIDI follows the platter and not the Tempo. So instead of locking the pitch at 4.2%, it will drift from 4.1% to 4.3%. Not terribly bad, but not as precise as we’ve come to expect from Traktror.
Jun 17th 2010, at 11:20 pm
Hi with the 4500 jj, can you control all four decks and the effects in traktor?
Jun 19th 2010, at 11:43 am
Yes Jason. Just hit the Playlist button to switch layers. Make sure and download the PDF as well as the TSI.
Jun 24th 2010, at 1:31 am
Any chance of finishing that DN-HC4500 4 Decks 20100427.tsi file with all the effects done? I will throw you some more dough. Been waiting, just havent had that the time to ask you, so I been using the no display one in the meantime. Thanks J.J. Hope the new baby is going well. OneCrazyDJ
Jul 14th 2010, at 12:29 am
Sure thing OneCrazyDJ. I’ve been very busy with my newborn. She is great. Thanks for asking.
I will start on it next week.
***Update. I installed Traktor on my new Intel SSD hard drive. Went to MIDI and pretty much forgot everything. It will take me a few days to see where I left off.
Jul 14th 2010, at 9:34 am
hello every one.
just got a denon dn-hc 4500 and i’m using VDJ version 5.0. on a windows 7 and asio driver version 1.01. When I connect the controller to the PC it displays a message saying its PC connected but I cant do nothing else because if I touch any button on the controller it blinks a red light that says ”Link” and besides the PC light on nothing else is displayed.
is there anything I’m missing ???
Please help
Jul 27th 2010, at 4:39 am
Like J.J. wrote: first upgrade to VDJ v. 6.1. If you still have problems, check the VDJ forum then: http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/20/PC_Version_Technical_Support.html
you might search on ‘HC 4500′.
Jul 27th 2010, at 11:50 pm
DJ.HSena, shouldn’t you be using the latest VDJ v6.1. They’ve added better audio, MIDI assignable, new skin engine, a lot of controller support, and bug fixes.
Make sure you have the latest Firmware SYS 1006 (August 2009) for the DN-HC4500 and the latest ASIO (both links found above in original post).
VDJ 5 will not work correctly with the latest SYS 1006 firmware, you have to download the full version.
Jul 27th 2010, at 9:10 am
JJ, i bought a Denon mixer DNX 1600 en ordered 2 DNS 3700, does your tsi file for the hc4500 work for these players as wel in Traktor?
I’ve got also Virtuals Dj, i saw on the internet on there forum that the platters are spinning with this software.
Jul 27th 2010, at 11:58 pm
COREMANS, I answered this for ace back on 3/19/10. Because the MIDI on the 3700 is very similar to the 4500, most of the MIDI commands will work. These buttons on the 3700 will probably not work because the 4500 doesn’t have them.
• Spinning Platter
• CLR1, CLR2, CLR3
• Auto Loop Set
• A Loop, B Loop
• A/B Trim
• Next Track
• CD, USB, MIDI
• Key Adjust
• Brake, Dump, Reverse
• Effect Knob
• FWD, Both
• Loop Trim buttons
• Echo Loop, Flanger, Filter
The 3700 has more buttons so it will make for a better MIDI controller.
From my post on 6/16/10, I’ve been able to successfully get spinning platter to work on the DN-S3700. It’s not as precise as I would like it though.
Wyley had this to say here:
“NI has been working on their own language for controllers such as a
“Bi-directional communication with TRAKTOR via Native Instruments’ high resolution protocol gives the hardware a smoother and more precise feel compared to regular MIDI controllers”. (courtesy of NI’s website)
NI did say on record that they do not know which update will address platter support, but it is coming (Traktor on record sessions) I know they want a couple of motorized platter controllers under their belt.
A firmware update from denon using NI’s language might be a possibility.
Maybe when Denon says something big is coming it could feature a number of upgrades instead of just one.
I guess the dj expo will tell us all what’s going on.”
The Atlantic City DJ Expo 2010 is August 16th – 19th.
Jul 28th 2010, at 9:14 am
Updated 7/28/2010: I fixed the PDF.
The Hot Start/Looping section had 3 things connected to the parameter button/knob. Deleted and Added:
• [Flip] + [Title] = Moves Loop 1 Bar Backward
• [Cont./Single] = Multiply Loop by 2
• [Flip] + [Cont./Single] = Moves Loop 1 Bar Forward
Jul 28th 2010, at 9:59 am
Thanks JJ!
I am a DJ from China.
Jul 29th 2010, at 2:37 am